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1 Black Spots
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1 Climbing Rose Question
1 Crown Gall
1 Cottonseed Meal
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1 Black Spots

Question:
We have removed all of the old mulch and replaced it with fresh straw, but Blackspots persist.

Answer: 
I would have worked the old mulch into the soil and replaced it with new. I don't care for the look of straw as a mulch. Any organic material worked into the soil can do nothing but improve it. Don't throw away such a valuable resource.

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1 Black Spots 2

Question:
My roses have a terrible case of black spot.  I have taken Jerry Bakers advice and painted every leaf with a tomato leaf, onion and rubbing alcohol brew.  This has seemed to help some.  But, I still have black spots. I have already cut two bushes back due to all of the leaves falling off. 

Last summer my roses were beautiful I sprayed them regularly and never had this problem. Now this summer with a new baby they have been a little neglected. Thank you

Answer:
You should have written to Jerry Baker as it seems his advice isn't working. I don't follow or even know what his advice is. The only way to control black spot is to prevent it, not wait for it to appear. If his advice were that good every American Rose Society member would be following it. We don't like black spot either. I recently suffered a massive stroke and cannot get out to my rose beds like I should. They are suffering because of it. Many of my roses are leafless sticks. I remove any blooms from them but do not cut them back as they will leaf back out. Preventative spraying is the only way to control black spot. That means spraying with a fungicide labeled for roses when the bushes leaf out in the spring and continuing as directed on the label all through the summer and into the fall until the first hard frost. To kill any BS  now, spray 3 times, 3 days apart with Manzoceb or Manzate. This should clean up your foliage. Then spray with Banner Maxx mixed with Manzoceb every two weeks  as a preventative. If you only have a few roses you may not want to spend all that money on Banner Maxx. You can get the same active ingredient in Fertilome's Liquid Systemic Fungicide. Banner Maxx requires 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon per gallon while the Fertilome product requires 2 tablespoons per gallon. Banner Maxx is about $70 a pint and the Fertilome product is $21 a pint. A pint of BM would last many years if you have just a few roses. Funginex, Daconil, and Immunox available from many garden centers, Home Depot and Wal*Mart will work also. Make sure you follow the directions carefully and read the label. Good luck with your new baby! Right now that is the most important thing in your life. Roses can be replaced quite easily.  A source for Manzoceb, Manzate, and Banner Maxx is www.muncyrose.com or www.rosemania.com Spraying will take less time than painting the leaves.

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1 Climbing Rose Question

Question:
I have just bought a climbing rose called Danse du feu. I have planted it in an old chimney pot which is 18" tall and 9" in diameter. This is sitting on a 4" layer of gravel under which is concrete. I am training it onto a wicker climbing frame. Any suggestion on how and when to prune? 

Answer: 
Although pot growing roses can be successful, the eventual size of the bush is limited by the size of the root system. Not a problem with smaller bush roses but due to the length of the canes of climbers this can limit their growth and flowering. When digging up a well established bush, the thick roots you see are mostly anchor roots. The tiny feeder roots that supply nutrients and moisture to the plant normally are easily broken off and left in the soil. A good root system will be as large as the top growth. Providing a larger pot will fix the problem in the short run but overall the plant will not achieve it's full potential. As the pot fills with roots a dilute fertilizer should be supplied each time it's watered. Notice I said "dilute", not full strength? Manure tea would also work. I'd not plant a climber in anything smaller than a half barrel or a large tree pot. Climbing rose Danse du feu, also known as Spectacular. My sources show it to be a vigorous grower which means it will be severely stunted in the pot unless it is supplied with frequent fertilizings and waterings.

It's not recommended to prune Climbers until after the first spring bloom. Your bush is listed as "recurrent blooms", which means it will have a spectacular first bloom and a smattering of flowers throughout the growing season with a possible fall bloom that will not match the spring's.  Most climbers in this catagory will set blooms in the fall and blooms best on old wood from the previous year.  Pruning in spring removes those blooms. Because it's recurrent, it will also produce a few blooms from new growth, but not many. You may remove damaged or dead cane tips in the spring but any other pruning should be done after the spring bloom. Over a period of years older canes will produce fewer flowers. This can be remedied by removing those old canes. This promotes new growth which will supply more flowers and will keep your bush vigorous.

To train it onto a wicker climbing frame, tie the canes to the frame with soft ties or cord. Weaving them in the frame can make it hard to remove dead and damaged canes and also cause a problem if you wish to move the bush. If you live in a cold winter climate, some winter protection may be required to protect the canes or they may die back each winter. Wrapping the trellis and exposed canes with burlap may work as would removing the canes from the trellis each fall, laying them on the ground and covering them with leaves, soil or wood shavings.

To prevent fungus diseases like blackspot, you should spray every week or 10 days with a fungicide such as Fertilome's Liquid Systemic Fungicide, Ortho's Funginex or other product labeled for roses.


I don't spray insecticides. Insects don't eat that much and, unless you are a prefect leaf freak or exhibitor, a few holes in the blooms or leaves don't hurt anything. Insecticide spraying will kill many beneficial insects which if left alone will naturally control harmful ones. If done, it should only be done to destroy existing insects and not as a preventative.

Hope this helps

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1 Crown Gall

Question:
Is there a way to save a bush that has crown gall?

Answer: 
I remove the bush and with a sharp knife remove all signs of the gall, including a little of the wood at the point of attachment. I pour alcohol over the wound then apply a little Wall*Mart's human anti-bacterial ointment on it. I drench the soil in the area with a bleach solution. I pot the bush and watch it for one season. I've successfully eliminated the gall from a number of bushes this way.. Disinfect your tools when you are done. If the bush is too far gone I shovel prune it.

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1 Cottonseed Meal

Question:
While standing in line at a feed store several customers were discussing how pleased they were with using cottonseed meal as a mulch around their roses. No one mentioned any negative points concerning the product. My soil and water ph tends to be high and it was mentioned that cottonseed meal would help. The product is very cheap (price) so I am considering giving it a try. Has anyone here experienced any problems with using cottonseed meal? 

Answer:
Cottonseed meal is pretty neutral. I helps put organics in the soil. The only negative is that it's hard on the cottonseed as they get ground up into those tiny pieces. 

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1 Cramming Roses

Question:
I got a plot in a community garden of 9' x 20' but I can only use 1/4 of the area for flowers. Creatively speaking, how many roses can I plant in 9' x 5'? Suggestion for roses is also welcome!!! 

Answer:
Allowing for 2 feet on center in zone 5 you can cram 15 roses in that 45 square feet of space, more if you plant minis. Remember when figuring you can plant one foot away from the outside edges, then two feet on center.

Adding to my previous comment, at this stage of my life, I'd opt for a couple (Two-2) of nice hardy, disease resistant shrub roses and let them grow as nature intended. Fewer roses but less work and care. Nothing more beautiful than a large, natural growing with long arching canes, shrub rose in full bloom.

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